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  • But "Brockman says he personally believes OpenAI has reached AGI, while leaving users to decide whether Astra meets that definition."

    Says it all.

    by beardyw
  • If it's not clear what's happened:

    The launch was scheduled for 11am Pacific time.

    The press embargo broke at 11am, and we saw a flurry of press articles by Axios, TechCrunch et al.

    The model has appeared on the ChatGPT API.

    But the official blog post is not out yet after nearly an hour.

    Apparently the article was posted then quickly taken down, hence there are snippets of information coming out.

    by tristanj
  • Seriously: Would this not be what "disaster" would feel like?

      - "They" release a model. It is powerful.-
  - Sources are ... confusing? They post to their blog. Sawdust hits the fan. Something happens ...
  - They are forced to take the blog post down ...
    Same day, mind where we had a multi-provider outage. Could be something as simple as "all their approved partners running to test the shinny new thing" overloading the datacenters, still ...
    by Bluestein
  • It seems like these articles might have come out prematurely, tbd by how much.

    I do not personally see any evidence of the new model having been released, or any official OpenAI post about it, or even any employee social media posts claiming it has now been released. All there is are Reuters, Axios, FT, etc, articles making a claim in the past tense.

    These articles were presumably pre-scheduled for 11am PT, and the model was almost certainly intended for release this morning, but the service outages this morning might have delayed it.

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    edit [11:45am PT]: blog post out now https://openai.com/index/gpt-6-astra/

    edit [11:47am PT]: 404ing again

    by gadtfly
  • (Posting partly so I can revisit my predictions when they open access more widely)

    A big problem I have with OpenAI's models (and of course Claude) is that they tend to write the most over-engineered pieces of code, beyond the imagination of any architecture's astronaut.

    Just this week I asked 5.6-sol-ultra to update a 1000 LOC python script I had, to "incorporate the key lessons learned when using it for another project".

    I left it overnight and went to sleep. In the morning I realized it had created a monstruosity of 180 PYTHON SCRIPTS, with maybe 100,000 lines of code, each more crazy than the other. It took me minutes even to track where a single action took place, due to all the crazy imports, defensive coding, and premature optimization.

    Similarly, anything they write is riddled with jargon that almost feel like they want me to give up trying to understand. Made up phrases that ended up with me having no idea of what was going on.

    So now to my assessment: The reason why " Nobody Has Actually Built a Software Factory" [1], and why even SOTA LLMs struggle so much with open-ended unsupervised tasks is precisely this. They somehow let complexity explode, and unless it's also accompanied with an explosion in e.g. the number of agents, the amount of processing time, etc. then projects become broken/unmanageable.

    Sure, LLMs are great at producing code that can be thrown out, so they are amazing when searching for exploits, for instance. But as of 5.6 they still lack either a better harness that encourages KISS principles, or a better RL step.

    (And not sure why, but doubt Astra will fix this.. they seem to be aiming for AGI and for beating crazy benchmarks, which is not very aligned with KISS)

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49510843

    by zzleeper
  • At this point, why don't we just do a prequel to the release?

    1) Astra will win all benchmarks like all models do.

    2) The pelican will have a basket with a fish.

    3) Cyber is too dangerous to release.

    4) It can finally construct the set of all sets.

    by 12381231927
  • I think they embargoed the news, and then they failed to put up their own blog post synchronized to the scheduled news releases, probably because of the outages they're having today.

    Reuters announced at 2.03pm and at 2.40pm still no blog post.

    All the news articles say that OpenAI announced it in a blog post, of course.

    All the love to the folks at OpenAI scrambling to get this out right now!

    Edit: HN user codergautam mirrored the launch post, below: https://astratest.codergautam.workers.dev/GPT-6%20Astra_%20A...

    Edit 3.31pm: Live now! https://openai.com/index/gpt-6-astra/

    by tekacs
  • All: let's keep the current thread for talking about the rollout, and switch to this one for talking about the model:

    GPT-6 Astra - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49554643 (currently on the frontpage)

    by dang

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