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  • Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11; the Afghanistan war gave control back to the Taliban. SEAL Team 6 got Bin Laden, but what about the other terrorists like him out there?
    by orionblastar
  • The other terrorists like him out there use US tax money to blow up Palestinians.
    by alphawhisky
  • > the Afghanistan war gave control back to the Taliban

    At least the Taliban tends to be relatively isolationist.

    > what about the other terrorists like him out there?

    A lot of them are funded by Iran.

    by jameshilliard
  • > the Afghanistan war gave control back to the Taliban

    I'm very confused. Who was in control before?

    by triceratops
  • If there was no 9/11, there would be no carte blanche from congress to Bush to send the military off on whatever crusade.
    by JojoFatsani
  • > The Supreme Court is the only institution in our system capable of standing up for the rule of law, fundamental rights, and the separation of powers. Just because it is doing a bad job does not mean we should weaken its powers further.

    Dred Scott. Plessy. Bush v Gore. Citizens United. The court has worked against our values just as frequently as it has upheld them throughout the history of this country. Fundamental reform is required if we are to avoid these sort of nonsense decisions in the future.

    by cactacea
  • > Fundamental reform is required if we are to avoid these sort of nonsense decisions in the future.

    "Fundamental reform is required if we are to avoid decisions that I disagree with in the future."

    by upupupandaway
  • https://archive.is/N9SlM
    by wslh
  • Osama Bin Laden won. Before most people realized what the Patriot Act really was, I downloaded the paper and read it in it's entirety. I did a report on it. How I wish we only had what it was suggesting. The world is much worse off since then, My teacher did say some of my argument was slippery slope and would never happen. Ha!
    by segmondy
  • A CIA plant won? Say more.
    by FLeXMurphy
  • I think it's awesome you were right and your teacher was wrong.

    But I also am glad teachers try to teach kids about slippery slope as a logical fallacy. To convince others, we must use fact; when beliefs are chained as facts, well, you form a slippery slope.

    And I'm just saying, plainly: I'm glad teachers are still teaching that stuff. Nothing against your win.

    by digitalsushi
  • lol, me too. I still have the paper i wrote from 20+ years ago on this subject.
    by nharziro
  • > Osama Bin Laden won.

    While I understand that the assertion "Osama bin Laden won" can trigger a lot of arguments, if we narrow the claim to: 9/11 => profound and lasting changes to the entire world, then I think it's essentially correct.

    by wslh
  • What strategic objective did Bin Laden achieve?

    If we look at his stated reason for the attack [0], it is hard to reconcile post 9/11 history with a claim of his victory.

    [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20040615081002/http://observer.g...

    by gizmo686