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- hopefully this come in openrouter api cause I'm not signing up for a specific provider's specific api platform, and have yet another thing that can bill me.by mesmertech
- They wont. This is OpenAI specific. They don't even have support for OpenAI realtime models.
However, this open source project https://github.com/chatbotkit/platform/ does and you can plug OpenRouter or OpenAI keys straight in while keeping your integration work generic. The only downside is hosting it yourself but it is just docker compose up.
by _pdp_ - Damn, this was a terrible showcase of their voice API, I really love their product. It's the fucking best, a life changer. But... what a meh showcase.
Is somebody from OpenAI hiring? I can show how I use it to learn German, among other very interesting usages.
Also show proper excitement etc... I think also a lot of real users could do better.
It feels like they aren't real users of their own products...
by thiago_fm - They mention Speak in the blog post but don't show their demo. On Speak's blog post, that demo is way better: https://www.speak.com/blog/live-tutor-lessons-powered-by-ope...by dbbk
- Can it infer someone's accent and correct it or tone of the voice or whether someone is talking in a mocking way? If not, then it's seems not there yet.by varispeed
- The worst use case to show this.by muddi900
- Their use-cases for the recent 'Images' release were also terrible.by jjhfarmer
- All voices offered sound human. I'd prefer a robotic voice, to avoid over-anthropomorphizing the AI.by idiliv
- I've given a try to the demo in the webpage. I've asked to tell me which of the first generation pokemon started with the letter C, requesting it to tell me their names in reverse. It got stuck.
I don't know if they are having some troubles with their demo environment due to the volume of requests in this specific moment, but I'm very hesitant to put something like this in production if it fails with this trivial example.
by Lucasoato - Been wanting to try this out on top of https://github.com/TristanBrotherton/voicepe-realtime with the HomeAssistant VoicePE
Anyone else hack something together with HA / the Voice PE yet?
Looks like it needs a second model to do function calling, which gpt-realtime-2.5 didn't, and the Voice PE XMOS chip's audio pipeline might not be a great fit for full duplex back and forth, like what gpt-live-1 now supports.
by ndom91 - I think that this could be useful for the case of learning something by teaching it to someone else, and this someone else being the AI. We all know that learning-by-teaching is a great way to see the gaps in your knowledge and check whether you can explain the topic simple enough for the "student" to understand it. But finding the "student" is the hard thing in this process. Replacing the student with this model, and maybe a better reasoning model behind, sounds like a good enough replacement of a real person, for this case.by kailpa1
- Not sure whether the latency between your last sentence and follow-up question from the AI would be small enough for it to not be intrusive. As another user noted in a comment, that it takes time for the conversational model to call a more powerful sub-agent that evaluates your explanation and returns follow-up questions.
Another question is: can the model interrupt you and ask questions right away? What if you're incorrectly defining something and then building up on it? Would the model interrupt you right after the incorrect definition or after you've already finished your explanation?
by kailpa1 - Can't wait till a customer rep is impossible to get to because all support is outsourced to ai.by gunalx
- Relevant video, just make them say oink: https://youtu.be/fhi6JU5pOJkby nozzlegear
- I'm not so sure, I think it could go the other way. The vast majority of support cases should be handled in an automated way. I had an issue with Vercel recently where I argued that a bill was incorrect, and the agent produced and offered a refund by itself - that was interesting.
You obviously need humans but they can be freed up to deal with the more complicated cases.
by dbbk - Even as someone really AI-forwards, there are just not enough selling points for me here. I almost never want to talk to an AI. I just don’t believe I’ll have a useful voice interaction. Maybe agents are here to fix that, but theres 30 years of really negative precedent from robot telephone bots to overcome, and I don’t think some new API is going to change that overnightby almogo
- I talk to AI sometimes to tell me a bedtime story as I'm trying to fall asleepby Razengan
- This voice model can do tool calling. So as long you give it powerful tools, I believe it to be useful.by whazor
- I almost never want to talk to an AI, because text is better for almost anything. But it's nice to have that "almost" corner case covered, no?
Not to mention all the current "telephone bots" applications that could benefit from something that has actual reliable STT and can accurately grasp a number you tell it first try, or hear a natural language description of what you want and immediately bypass listing the entire menu of options one by one.
by ACCount37 - Reposting my comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49646963
Congrats on the launch here. I've been messing with this over the last few hours- super super cool. I was excitedly awaiting this hitting the API, because ofc there wasn't a super high fidelity option for drop-in voice interface in front of a given harness. This is blowing me away so far!
(Side q, is there a single place one can watch for updates on the API- that actually covers everything that changes? IIRC there have been a couple of additions that you've tweeted- but never hit the API changelog ;] )
by agentdev001 - And replying with some more thoughts after reading the comments here. To me, this feels similar to when models started passing the line of (imo) "good enough" to start building much more capable agents. The release of this (gpt-live-1) in the app felt like a big jump in capability, and now that this is available on the api- and I've tried it, it really feels like something big is unlocked for devs. Using this as the UI for a harness feels good so far, and its very much just plug and play. I would encourage others to throw their coding agent of choice at the docs- and have it spin up a web page that puts this infront of a capable harness; it feels 1:1 with the current voice mode in the OAI app(s), and you can define the tool surface yourself. Its really cool.by agentdev001
- I've been waiting for this! I'm learning Spanish so I built an app to teach me Spanish, but hyperfocused on scenarios in my life, for example "watching a Barça match in a Barcelona bar". It does FSRS flashcard training, and live conversation practice.
I think education is a very underexplored area for these live conversation models. Yes you can just use ChatGPT Live but that's freeform and unstructured, doesn't have a curriculum or can present supporting visuals, etc. On a grand scale if you can give children their own personal individual tutor rather than relying on group teaching alone, there could be a huge jump in successful education outcomes.
by dbbk - Point it to learn catalan! If you want the locals to love you, that's the best way ;)by bibanez
- Group teaching for language learning is essential, even more for kids. It’s really important to be in a context where you have to interact with other humans. There is a reason anyone serious and with the means will pay good money to go to language courses IRL to progress, instead of relying on video calls. And the last thing kids need is even less human contact during their educationby dgellow
- Seems like a very popular use for AI, I work on a version for Korean. (A very diffrent feature set, more exercise generation, maybe someday I'll get to live conversation, which would be a great thing.)
However, for voicing sentences I use murf.ai, which seemed very nice for korean.
I tried to talk to the openai version in (my bad) korean, and it responded in japanese :D
by ketzu - Have you been able to find information on which languages are explicitly supported by this API? I'm having a hard time finding that out.by samvher
- That's great- i recently went down the same path! I was using grok in my car but got frustrated it wouldn't keep track.
Built my own app, currently focused on having it generate stories for me at my level, and also doing FSRS flashcards, using words that i lookup.
What are you using for the voice AI?
Right now I'm using Gemini as it seemed the best value, but I think it could be improved.
Also, how's the learning for you been so far? I've only been at it a few weeks but this method seems to be superior than other things I've tried
by peab - Yeah, it's an exciting use case. Although all these models, even seemingly GPT-Live-1 doesn't actually hear your pronunciation, it seems they all get passed transcripts, so for learning to speak another language, they're still not there seemingly.
But, it's close! You can control their pronunciation, make them speak slower/faster, and obviously great at anything text, so many use cases work great for language learning with LLMs. Just wish they solved this last mile thing too!
- Oh yeah, I built so much stuff to learn German, for example [1] to give me random German texts, force me to read it, and answer it, I created [2] to automatically make flashcards for me and then use with with a flashcards app I regularly use and [3] to help me memorise German cases and word-genders. I love it!
I did think of implementing this conversationally, but tbh it has always been too expensive thus far, I gotta retry with GPT-live-1, I tried it with elevenlabs before but it wasn't live enough and the models were not intelligent enough.
[1] https://river.berlin/projects/german-learning-helper/ [2] https://river.berlin/projects/flashcard-generator/ [3] https://river.berlin/projects/german-cases-trainer/