Can we please limit the AI news flood?

Can we please limit the AI news flood?

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  • Hacker News
  • While I'm sympathetic to the sentiment, the ongoing automation of intelligence is, for better or worse, one of the most consequential things that can/will happen to "hackers" (as well as white-collar workers in general), and it is very difficult for us to look away from that asteroid in the sky.
  • Surprised you put "hackers" in quotes but not intelligence.
  • I think this is just how it goes. Were you here in 2017-2018 when it was all blockchain all the time?
  • I think this is another level because AI affects the actual job of programming regardless of domain which is not the case with blockchain

    Even if you don't use AI you may still have to review co-workers using it

    Whereas blockchain was just a specific domain

  • There's no way you think this is comparable to blockchain?
  • Was it? Iirc there was always something interesting on the front page besides the blockchain. Now there are days when there's nothing besides the "AI" created "AI" spam.
  • Why limit? This is a news website where users judge if something is newsworthy by upvoting it. If the community decides it’s newsworthy it’s newsworthy. Maybe not for you but at least enough people to make it visible in front page. Unless you have strong arguments, like topics creating death threats or people doxing, there is no reason whatsoever to censure any news because you personally doesn’t care or don’t like it and prevent others from accessing it.
  • I mean, it's cute that you think that users are driving anything on the internet anymore.
  • HN is curated by moderators and votes are just one input. All sorts of topics get downweighted all the time. Given the longevity of the AI news cycle it's not a crazy ask to suggest it get downweighted too.

    And it's "censor", not "censure". To censure AI news would be for Dan and Tom to lodge a formal complaint about it.

  • Its 13:15 UTC and 21 of the 30 submissions on the HN home page are not AI related. I'm not saying there isn't a problem with AI-related submissions, but I'm not sure its a flood.
  • at 13:31 there are 11 "AI" related submissions from just the titles. Bet a good half of the others are "AI" slop.
  • If it is on the homepage then is it not algorithmically what the community wants? Have you tried the https://news.ycombinator.com/newest link? I find that I prefer it over the homepage and have does so for years.
  • I noticed it as well but I don’t see a problem with it.

    I have spot-checked it at times and saw 5 to 8 of the top 10 posts about AI or directly adjacent.

    We are in an emergent, dynamic periodt. AI is revolutionary and will continue to get better. The world will change drastically because of it. This seems so obvious yet many will call it purely hype, no real value, etc. We are still in the incubation period, just like the internet in the early 2000s.

  • > I noticed it as well but I don’t see a problem with it.

    Again, I don't have a problem with AI news, I have a problem with missing out on other news that simply don't surface the news from the "New" abyss.

  • A few years ago, it was all web3 and block chains. I was just last week reflecting on how long ago it was I'd seen anything in that category make it to the HN front page. I think a lot of it has to do with where the investment money is going. Interesting how times change and topics that people are passionate about reflect that.

    A simple truth with HN is that you don't have to click on every link. And if you go into the comment threads, you don't have to react at everything. This whole "somebody is wrong on the internet" cliche starts with people's own behavior. In my case, AI agents are giving me a lot of quality procrastination time. I'm waiting for two things to finish right now. Anyway, that's just me looking into the mirror.

    AI definitely is a hot topic on HN. IMHO a lot of the material being upvoted is a bit low quality. I wouldn't mind a bit more aggressive pruning for that. I know the HN editors put their fingers on the scale when things get out of hand sometimes.

  •     news.ycombinator.com##:matches-path(/^\/(?:news)?$/) tr.athing:has(a:has-text(/AI|claude|A.I|harnesses|harness|OpenRouter|llm|vibecode|agi|deep learning|agent|TPU|GPT|DeepSeek|Anthropic/i)):xpath(. | following-sibling::tr[1])
    
    I just have that in my Ublock Origin rules - it cuts the noise dramatically and if something gets through I just update the has(), it's a brute force approach.

    Ironically the only reason I saw this post is because I was on my ipad :).

  • I think you should replace vibecode with vibecod so that you can catch vibecoding too.

    Also add "vibe cod" with a space.

    And add token, Gemini, OpenAI, llama

  • Here's an extension I wrote to do the same idea, except it clicks the Hide link for each AI submission instead of just nuking the DOM node. This means when you load the front page again, HN will fill it in with articles from the 2nd page. Works pretty well. https://github.com/ColdPie1/enough-ai-on-hn
  • Long time user, recently scrambled my password and gave up on HN entirely.

    It's not just the AI thing - though that hasn't helped - there's been a real turn in the community. The most generous take I can offer is that a lot of people flooded into tech for the money in the last ten years, and now that the money is tighter all these people are panicking and trying to cling to anything that looks like a winning lottery ticket.

    Unfortunately that means that for those of us who actually like cool tech, the space is inundated with get rich quick trash and wishcasting. So so much of it on HN right now.

    I also think there's been a subtle change in the quality of the moderation. Before, stories were clearly gently spiked or promoted to encourage interesting and novel things to drift to the top every once in a while, and now that basically never seems to happen. A story about a cool new lisp would somehow appear in front of a story about a new version of React, even though it's kind of obvious it couldn't match the level of upvotes for the latter. Now it's all the latter. It's like a very smart thumb has been lifted off the scales and the community is poorer for it.

    As I say, I eventually just left. HN currently detracts from my enjoyment of my day more than it adds. I hope it finds its way back over time.

  • > The most generous take I can offer is that a lot of people flooded into tech for the money in the last ten years, and now that the money is tighter all these people are panicking and trying to cling to anything that looks like a winning lottery ticket.

    > Unfortunately that means that for those of us who actually like cool tech, the space is inundated with get rich quick trash and wishcasting. So so much of it on HN right now.

    This is, ironically, exactly how I see this myself. In fact, I recently commented here in a similar fashion, although not as eloquently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49436470

    I still think YC can try and do something about this, but realistically it's just damaged beyond repairable.

  • I miss all the programming articles. It feels like everyone has given up with the very idea of ever writing code now and the entire practice of making software has been handed over to AI.
  • Maybe all this time we were just in a ZIRP bubble and the people who claimed to be "interested in programming" were just grifting to the top all along.
    by rvz
  • I also experience this as a great loss, but honestly yes, I can't get excited about perfecting the craft of writing computer code now that there are AI systems that have done so. I'll always be sad about this! But the flip side is that I'm way more excited about what I can do with software, now that it's so much easier to write.
  • There are already too many articles about programming and new things are constantly being invented even with AI. For example, I created a programming language called ACPUL by hand designed for humans and there are still articles about it that have yet to be written.

    Programming will become like esports. Maybe out of the 30 million programmers who can program without AI, only 5 million will remain, but that is still a large number.

  • Reddit's /r/programming is very well moderated, and they specifically don't allow articles about AI, unless it's programming AI. You should check it out.
  • Same. I miss the excitement around programming. New languages, new tricks, weird hacks, odd projects.

    I have little to no interest in AI coding - I try it every couple months but always regret it, git reset, and go back to coding by hand.

    It feels quite lonely these days. The general energy and enthusiasm from hn was a big source of motivation, or maybe community. Now using hn feels quite isolating.

    I do see the occasional post about going back to hand coding though, and their frequency seems to be on the rise, so hopefully that correction continues

    (I don’t need to see no AI, to each their own, just would be nice to see an equal amount of hand coding content one day)

  • Both of those examples wouldn't have gotten traction in the pre-AI HN in my opinion.

    The Lenovo laptop jet is experimental and the details suggests that it uses 7.5w to cool 30w. That's not very efficient. You might as well have a small fan and let it spin at a low RPM to reduce noise. There doesn't seem to be a breakthrough here.

    The Brax industries one is just an ad from the company's official Youtube channel. I don't think the product is interesting at all.

  • The Brax products and the company values look very interesting to me, thanks OP for pointing them out.
  • I don’t think thinner laptops with larger batteries are intellectually interesting either.

    Even though I might favor one if I was shopping for a new Thinkpad and was willing to spend more money on a laptop than I am likely to spend.

  • This article (German, sorry) claims that it tops out at 20W TDP

    https://www.computerbase.de/news/notebooks/lenovo-x-airjet-i...