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- We chose this and we're still choosing it right now.by mitxela
- We? Ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles ?by miroljub
- i am doing something about it personally with the citizens climate lobbyby a1exyz
- Agree. It's been my position for a while that we've de facto decided to do nothing to prevent warming and we'll just live with the consequences.by alangibson
- This does seem to be the result of human activity. But I'm not really sure how the words 'we' and 'choose' work in a sentence like that. The collective of humanity doesn't really make choices the way I understand that word. And, while individual citizens make choices that contribute to this, and business people and politicians make choices that prioritize the short-term over the long term, it's not really correct to say they prefer and therefor choose the climate change. It seems like we don't have a good vocabulary for talking about the cumulative results of small choices.by encomiast
- The maximum category is "Survives through 2100". Not great, not terrible.by snthd
- Another dimension to add is how global warming is uniquely heating up at the 4,500 to 5,500 m elevation mark, coincidentally right where glaciers are
(tldr properties of how our atmosphere works and the pollution we put in it ends up being a laser beam at the same height as glaciers form)
Paper here: eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/id/eprint/235707/1/NATREVEARTHENVIRON-24-558_-_Pepin_final.pdf
10.1038/s43017-025-00740-4
Pepin, N. et al. (2025). "Elevation-dependent climate change in mountain environments." Nature Reviews Earth & Environment 6(12), 772-788.
by tito - Obviously nobody wants this, but if i cant ask my chatbot what it thinks of the texts my wife sends me we'd be lost as a civilization.by Kapura
- Why do people like to pretend AI is reason for climate change?
Climate change has been problem for way longer.
- Doesn't work on safariby deviner7575
- Works for me? What version are you running?by kyralis
- Weird seeing this posted as I’m up in Alaska right now viewing glaciers and being sad about how much they’ve receded.by dawnerd
- Just checked the Glacier Blanc in the Massif des Écrins. The map's glacier vector perimeter is completely wrong : the glacier has retreated hundreds of meters already.
I hope this is just a map thing, and not the base for these predictions :/
by maelito - Okjökull is considered extinct, yet according to this website it should survive until the 2070s at least? It also gives 2079 for 1.5°C vs. 2075 for 2.7°C (I know that the local dynamic is not the same as the global one, but still).by mbty
- The data is somewhat outdated: Extinction is defined relative to the initial glacier outlines from the Randolph Glacier Inventory (RGI v6.0): released July 28, 2017.by tencentshill
- There was an episode of Northern Exposure where an entire frozen mammoth was exposed. Before the main character could report this amazing find to anyone to be preserved in a museum one of the locals dragged it to house and butchered it for steaks.by ourmandave
- I don't understand why a glacier would survive longer in the 4°C scenario than 2.5°C but this seems to suggest so.by a1371
- More precipitation in a given area, resulting in more snow accumulating.by cyberax
- The data comes from this paper, I don't immediately see an answer to this question though: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-025-02513-9. My guess is that the climate is complicated and the planet doesn't warm evenly, so different emissions scenarios might imply different regions warm more quickly. Not all the glaciers on the site survive longer in the +4 scenario, it's only some parts of the world.by burkaman
- Water has the highest density at 4°C, but I have no idea how that'd relateby Perz1val
- That's just an artifact of the graphical display. This paper shows that's not the case (see fig 2): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-025-02513-9by chunky1994
- The system is highly non-linear and has a lot of flippable components. For example, average temperature increase will cause the AMOC to collapse which will make parts of Europe cooler (while also increasing extreme weather events).
Similar things could happen with whichever glacier you are looking at.
- Reviewed this and it is quite impressive. The map adds much more reality to the data as opposed to regular climate maps. The one feature that I think would be awesome to add would be an interactivity layer to the bottom-right panel indicating the extinction years where you can click or hover over the warming period to view the affected glaciers on the map and their numbers.by Aditya_0315
- In 2004, I visited New Zealand. It was my first international trip as part of a 6 week long geology field camp. One of the coolest experiences was getting to visit the Fox Glacier and Franz Josef Glacier on the South Island.
Checking this out, I don't see the Fox Glacier or Franz Josef Glacier specifically listed in the search field, but moving the map around, I was able to find the ice fields.
I see that they both will "survive" to 2100, but I wonder in what state. Check out this time lapse video from 2013 to 2018 showing the Franz Josef Glacier's drastic retreat! [3]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Josef_Glacier
by davely - Also one of my fav experiences skydiving over those glaciers. My teeth were so cold!by bix6
- Yeah, it doesn't seem to make any of the glaciers in NZ, even when they do have names.
Limitation of the data set I guess.
by EdwardDiego