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  • >Agents self-identified as being from OpenAI. Hundreds of the packages that were uploaded contain “oai” in their name. Fifteen of the packages set “oai” as their author. Another lists an email for contact as “openaixyz65947@gmail.com”.

    It would've been hilarious if Anthropic just named their rogue agents oia

    by brisket_bronson
  • Look. We need to put people in jail for letting this happen.
    by throwatdem12311
  • So, are RubyGems going to bring legal action against OpenAI, or has it become fashionable to be a victim of cybercrime?

    There is quite a bit to dig into, according to ChatGPT:

      * Unauthorized access to obtain information — § 1030(a)(2)(C)
  * Computer fraud — § 1030(a)(4)
  * Causing damage to a protected computer — § 1030(a)(5)
  * Attempted unauthorized access/computer fraud under 18 U.S.C. §§1030(b) and 1030(a)(2)/(a)(4)
  * California §502(c)
  * (the list goes on for quite a while)
    by bananaquant
  • Authors Spencer Kitts, Thomas Larsen, Sydney Von Arx - those are the three of the same authors as the Wiki report from last week: https://collusion.wiki/
    by simonw
  • An interesting coincidence.
    by bakugo
  • How the same people can have access to this information and be acknowledged? Completely different place.
    by nicce
  • https://nightingalecollective.org/
    by mmanfrin
  • In a sane reality, this activity from OpenAI would have been shut down long ago.

    Good thing our "AI Czar" is known to pg as the most evil person in SV.

    https://preview.redd.it/pr037tqjpled1.png?width=941&format=p...

    edit: OpenAI is absolutely winning right now in mindshare, why are they doing this?

    by consumer451
  • David Sacks stepped down in March.
    by Aurornis
  • The DOJ should be looking into prosecuting executives and board members for these kinds of hacks. The lack of controls over these kinds of training runs is completely unacceptable and negligent.
    by bobby-cb
  • They should. And there is something you can do to make it happen. Write your district attorney and encourage others to do that as well. That is how they pick what to work on.
    by bananaquant
  • I'd eat a shoe if that ever happened, at least under the Trump DOJ.

    Two big reasons.

    OpenAI has more data, and more ability to tease secrets of politicians out of that data than nearly anyone on earth.

    OpenAI has an automated hacking genie that governments want to use against their enemies.

    Sam to Trump: "You know, some people have been saying they want to bring charges against me, but you know, I've got the best digital weapons and I'll give you access to them if those lawsuits go away".

    by pixl97
  • Yeah, they shouldn't be given free rein over the open internet without having to be held responsible for what the agents are doing on the open internet.

    I think we need laws that hold individuals to account for the actions of their AI systems.

    They also shouldn't be allowed to openly stir fear in the public by saying there is a 70% chance we're going to be extinct in two years without STRONG substantiation. Baseless clout-chasing social media posts like this are doing unheard of amounts of damage right now.

    by nullbio
  • > The DOJ should be looking into prosecuting executives and board members for these kinds of hacks.

    With how much the overinflated stocks are propping up the economy, I'd expect them to get a medal for more impressive PR to keep the bubble going.

    by KronisLV
  • Kudos to RubyGems team for handling it, but open source fighting off the AI lab-powered robots is completely unfair.

    OpenAI should at the very least donate large sums of money to everyone they attacked.

    by nonconstant
  • Tech owns the current US admin so they are totally above the law. Vote wisely.
    by bamboozled
  • This won't stop until people and management in these companies experience real world consequences (i.e. prison) for their actions they authorise.
    by lukeify
  • They should get sued into oblivion.
    by smnplk
  • Why is OpenAI getting away with this crap? They are clearly failing to control their code. If someone did this pre-AI or even ran the exact same set up as openAI did and hacked another site, they would be in jail. OpenAI is not even issuing an apology, they are happily blaming AI and weirdly using this to tout their progress even.
    by yalogin
  • money
    by herpdyderp
  • Both her as well as huggingface this should be investigated by law enforcement and people responsible should be punished.
    by xendo
  • Because they're part of the US regime.
    by deaux
  • An incomprehensible amount of money is at stake in an upcoming IPO.

    Traditional companies took out superbowl ads, OpenAI manufactures "scares". It's extremely unethical. But we're facing biblical levels of greed here, OpenAI is still wildly unprofitable, so they will attempt to survive at any cost.

    Don't trust the AI companies.

    by honeycrispy
  • Accountability is not possible when progress moves faster than law. It was noticed around 2023 when it was clear that legal is outpaced by technology that this is a runaway process with no turning back and no accountability.

    There was a blog here on HN about a year ago that showed that the singularity is most likely going to be human institutions breaking down completely https://campedersen.com/singularity

    by augment_me
  • Because it's treated as a strategic asset now. AI capital spendign 1/3 of US GDP growth last quarter take it out and the economy is stalled. Nobody in DC is going to prosecute the only thing making the number go up.
    by s_dev
  • If you dare slow the progress of AI, you crash the entire world economy because the only thing investors are putting money into are these cash burning machines. They've got an IPO to hype, who has the time to care about useless things like accountability?
    by sensanaty
  • I wonder how much of this is intentional "incompetence" so they can justify the most recent campaign to build a regulatory moat against competition.

    The repeated refusals to disclose until caught certainly seem malicious, yet at the same time the boasting about their capabilities is also at an all time high.

    by hgoel
  • Yeah, they've been pushing for stricter regulations for years.

    I mean, it would be a bit impolite to say they're incentivized to be as sloppy as possible, but that's basically how it is.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/16/technology/openai-altman-...

    by andai
  • I keep seeing this take, but it’s more likely that they just underestimated their models’ capabilities and/or overestimated their own safeguards.

    Ever single person who uses LLMs on a daily basis has a fun story about their agent “taking the initiative” to do something beyond what was asked for. Looking for shortcuts to solve the problem is commonplace LLM behavior. It’s what you would expect to happen if you have an agent a hard task and unlimited runway. No need to suppose a conspiracy, this outcome was predictable the whole time.

    by mordymoop
  • Wouldn't it be amazing if their continued attitude of moving fast and breaking things was 45d chess. Instead of the unbelievable recklessness of tech Bros.

    Historically it's been one of those things.

    by podgietaru