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  • That is one creepy image.
    by IshKebab
  • SCNR :D
    by Nefarius
  • Yeah - was the brony/furry mascot original to the service or added by OP?
    by hughes
  • Probably not everyone's thing, but nice layout and color choice! I like the way how it slightly overlaps the surrounding text, but doesn't make it unreadable.
    by KronisLV
  • Is there a good alternative to SPICE beside VNC?
    by seymon
  • Can you simulate circuits in VNC ?
    by hulitu
  • Who named this project? SPICE - the circuit emulator - is one of the oldest and most well known open source projects id all time.
    by valdiorn
  • That ship sailed 20 years ago.
    by cwillu
  • I wish somebody would build a C version of xpra which does only has the client side for latency hiding and manages the remote caching using X11 messages only.
    by uecker
  • Deprecation of SPICE was news to me. Issue thread on the removal:

    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2030592

    by krautburglar
  • Why the pony with the hat if they do not sponsor it.
    by gbraad
  • Because it's funny.
    by Nefarius
  • The major challenge is not keep it building and compatible. The major challenge is to keep up with security issues.

    I wish op all the best, it's a tough journey

    by danilocesar
  • I guess I hadn't been paying attention. Is this just the Windows SPICE client that Red Hat has abandoned, or are they moving toward dropping SPICE altogether? Does Red Hat no longer have a VDI product? (I'm sure they did at one point.)

    Regardless, thanks for picking this up, OP.

    by bityard
  • Yes, Red Hat dropped SPICE support quite some time ago. Apparently in RHEL 8.3: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/5414901 It's definitely not part of any current Red Hat product. See my other reply for why this is.

    I don't think we have a VDI product as such, assuming you discount VNC which we do support but is hardly a full VDI solution.

    by rwmj
  • I used to use x2goserver which was and still is awesome.

    These days I prefer docker-based KASM Workspaces, or if you just want a nice GUI over your "bare-metal" VM or server then KasmVNC is great and easy to setup (not that KASM Workspaces is hard to setup)

    https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/kasm https://github.com/kasmtech/KasmVNC

    by indigodaddy
  • I really don't get why redhat decided to kill SPICE. It was the only thing that got using a VM on open source virtualization (e.g. proxmox) close to the experience of using one on vmware.

    VNC is truly the worst remote desktop protocol you can have. Bad latency, bad quality, bad integration.

    by franga2000
  • and insecure by default
    by Daviey
  • 100% agree. VNC is well past its prime.
    by g8oz
  • I did all of my development for a couple years on my first startup in a VM on my proxmox server, connected through spice. Was extremely nice being able to just go from desktop to laptop to any other machine that I had available and have the same environment available everywhere.

    It's been a few years and I haven't had a need for it recently, but it's sad to hear that they stopped supporting it.

    by Tostino
  • Now that NoMachine 10 has no free option, I’ve decided that I should try to burn some tokens on making a good, performant remote desktop system. I’m targeting moonlight-like performance with Windows RDP-like user experience. Cross-platform.

    https://github.com/x3haloed/ascry

    I don’t need my particular repo to be the one where this gets solved, but now that coding agents are really good, we shouldn’t have to put up with paying for shit software anymore, IMO.

    by x3haloed
  • Not enough people want to pay for VDI basically, certainly compared to how much it costs to maintain it. SPICE at the time that we abandoned it "only" supported 2D and video compression, which is complicated enough, but everyone wanted 3D support which would have added another labyrinthine stack on top.

    Also the code at the time was a massive security nightmare, written with no validation of fields in the network protocol. It was unmarshalling stuff off the network and sending it directly to X11 libs without even bounds checking. (I sincerely hope this has improved.)

    With that said, I wish the project well. SPICE is a much better user experience than VNC, especially if you're looking for something that supports audio, video and USB passthru.

    by rwmj
  • As an irregular user of spice (via Proxmox PVE), I wish the stars would align for QEMU to gain support for sunlight/moonlight streaming directly in the hypervisor. That'd be a killer app for VDI-style infrastructure, now that accelerated guest graphics via Venus, VirtIO GPU, and Intel's support for SR-IOV is finally coming together.
    by c0l0
  • This would be ideal. I've been reading about Moonlight a lot lately, and it's many children. I'm building a new home theater set up and will be trying it soon.
    by johng
  • This is a great idea and perhaps not all that hard. I'm getting started on it.
    by colechristensen
  • > I wish the stars would align for QEMU to gain support for sunlight/moonlight streaming directly in the hypervisor.

    I didn't know I wanted it until you said it.

    I have a few QEMU VMs where I use PCI-passthrough of a whole GPU and a USB controller, and wire the display and USB outputs physically into a KVM switch - works great, but not having to fiddle with the KVM (and run out of physical ports) would be - indeed, killer app.

    by matja
  • Major confusion for me, as SPICE is well known circuit simulator: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPICE

    Using it often. Mostly via ngspice nowadays: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngspice

    by IndrekR
  • I am happy I am not alone in this
    by RobRivera
  • Indeed, it was what we used in digital circuits lab exercises back in the 90's.
    by pjmlp
  • People who work with virtualization on Linux will (hopefully) all know what SPICE is.

    Edit: typo

    by chrisandchris