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  • Slop article for justifying sloppy political stances.
  • Disappointing. I'll need to find an alternative. I was hellbent on leaving google so I didn't care where I went.
  • Maybe Proton’s copy needs some work, but another page on their website very clearly explains that emails aren’t encrypted when an email leave the ecosystem. Because, as the author points out, they can’t be.

    Also, I hate Trump too, but a broken clock is right twice a day. It’s possible to agree with some of the things he says while not being a “Trump man”. Why should we be surprised that the company founded on anti big-tech principles would have a founder who is against big-tech?

    I think too that the only way to escape AI-written code in software products is to have written every line yourself. Which is obviously impossible because you’re not going to bootstrap the operating system.

  • An additional factor for me leaving was the board member (Rosemary Leith) who was part of the WEF. It seems to me that Proton has been co-opted
  • There was me, scanning away trying to find actual technical reasons and then...

    Bang. It's political.

    Opinion discarded.

  • Here’s some shocking facts: emails aren’t anonymous as a protocol, neither private too, stop trying to find an email like that. VPN as the commercial service isn’t anonymous either, there’s always a “trust us” factor, and in this ever changing world, your policy should be always zero trust. Neither proton, nor mullvad, nor signal, none of these popular platforms provide the anonymity and even the privacy you are expecting. If the protocol itself wasn’t designed with anonymity, privacy, and security in mind, everything follows is just marketing and maybe worse, a honeypot.
  • There was a brief moment when the Proton CEO published a whole self agrandizing article with pics of himself and the wifey and what selfless people they are, and how she had her own identity and everything, that and all about the servers sitting inside the swiss alps underground, but hey it was free, still is a free add for email services with an almost completely non functional email service behind the adds. I still use it for certain technical things, but it's broken for everday use in the free version The whole thing has the hink, hink with grue, almost like it's google with a different skin. I now have my own web space and email, which is half broken right now, but that suits me as whatever does get through is more work and other time consuming stuff than I can handle
  • This article is clearly written by someone who doesn't understand how encryption works.

    > What happens if I log out of all my proton accounts, travel to the other side of the globe, walk into the first library or internet café I find, and log on to mail.proton.me with my username and password?

    The keys are encrypted to your password, that's how you can access your data maintaining E2EE.

    by hnaw

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