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  • > > The more they lose, the more they win!

    American zeitgeist.

  • Anth revenue has probably crossed 70 billion.

    The way they calculate that is, last month's revenue x 12.

    The leaked numbers are old.

  • Related:

    Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49886005

  • Does anyone have the actual doc or are we now getting articles about articles.
  • What never checks out (aside from most of it) is how they will raise prices to a market that shrinks due to unemployment. Can’t sell apples to people without money.
  • Reminds me of the Amazon joke in the 90s (before they barely avoided bankruptcy): Amazon loses $5 on each sale but makes it up in volume.
  • Here are my biggest risks for Anthropic, OpenAI and SpaceX that don't seem to get the attention they deserve:

    1. What happens to your existing hardware investments when NVidia releases new hardware that allows buyers to run the same models at a fraction of the cost in energy times? IMHO performance-per-Watt is going to be the only significant metric here. Yes, your existing hardware will still work but efficiency is going to be the name of the game;

    2. How are you going to deal with the threat of open weight models that can be run locally and/or or cloud GPU infrastructure? We already have relatively affordable hardware (ie Mac Studios) that can run models as large as 500B-1T parameters with 3-4 bit quantization. That's only going to get better; and

    3. The only use cases for AI really are:

    a) Raising prices;

    b) Cutting costs, particularly labor; and

    c) Military applications such as targeting and autonomous drone and missile operation.

    A society where even 20% of people end up unemployed is one that catastrophically fails.

  • > If Anthropic is losing a fortune now with $13 billion in costs how are they going to break even spending $100+ billion per year? Don’t worry, their godlike AI will figure that out?

    It's wild that this is an accurate summation of their position here. It's equally wild that a company building and selling a technology as actually useful as an LLM - yes, I think they're useful, sue me - can't begin to think about how to make money with one.

    I agree with the article - they'd better hope they are messianic super geniuses, because if not, they're gonna seem real stupid when we have all moved in in a few years. The technology will stay, but that doesn't mean they will.

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