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  • Can these decision models be used to enhance the intelligence of video game adversary and friendly NPC "AI"?
    by radium3d
  • For smaller scale decision model that runs on CPU, check https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49923223
    by mrkn1
  • Clef is based on Qwen3.8-27B and Clef-flash is based on Qwen3.8-9B (edit: actually Qwen3.5-9B). So, similar in spirit to Kev by my understanding, but based on a newer model.
    by bityard
  • Pricing is $0.24/million input tokens which is ~6x compared to Jev. Clef-flash is at $0.09 which is way more competitive.
    by ssiddharth
  • Jev = $0.042/m input, output free Clef = $0.24/m input, no output price listed

    At 300 tokens per call, you'd get:

    One million decisions on Jev cost about $12.60. One million decisions on Clef cost about $72.

    Would probably make sense to self-host Clef, if you have the capability/resources. If not...

    by vulture916
  • Open weights, not open source.

    The weights have permissive licensing, but the data and training pipeline are not published to reproduce them from their proprietary Qwen starting points. Weights are not "source."

    by buildbuildbuild
  • Am I hearing this right, that they made a decision model based on Typesafe's new paradigm, and actually made a model better than Jev based on Typesafe's own ranking?

    And it's only been a few weeks.

    by manlymuppet
  • I love what Cloudflare is doing generally so I was excited to try Clef in my evals on a real task vs Jev: should an agent's knowledge-base write go to human review?

    Quality: close (recall 0.98 vs 1.00) Hosted p50: Clef ~850ms, Jev ~110ms Clef-flash: over-escalates

    Data + script: https://github.com/nicia-ai/admission-decision-eval

    by pdlug

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