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- As they should. If you can tell it's AI, it shouldnt be part of any codebase.
- I had a PR closed because of this, one that fixes something that, had it not been fixed (by Claude, based on me noticing and clarifying the failure mode and verifying the fix), would have led me to abandon at least COSMIC, if not the distro. But this has me wondering how COSMIC, which had reached 1.x before I started using it, can mature, and whether I'll remain. I started on Pop!_OS with its COSMIC-less 22.04 version; I chose it as a fairly popular distro having Ubuntu stability while offering a leading-edge kernel. Point being, COSMIC was never the draw for me, and I held off upgrading to 24.04 for a LONG time out of concerns about bugs & stability; eventually 22.04 started experiencing ibus-related problems that forced my hand. Since I am (a) not knowledgeable in Rust, nor (b) conversant in the protocol at the core of this bug, I would never have had the gumption or time to understand and fix the bug. And since the PR is closed, it seems unlikely to even serve as a bug report.
In the meantime, others have experienced this bug and are waiting for the maintainers to notice and fix it. I'll just continue to run my fork (so far it has been no burden at all) while I (slowly) decide what direction to take.
by cagey - Ok, this may be controversial, but LLM code tokens aren't free, and I run out of my weekly allowance pretty regularly just from doing some fairly heavy projects, so I don't understand why somebody would ever want to spend their own money to make bad PRs on purpose, and I like to assume good intentions from people unless proven otherwise, which means a near blanket ban for LLM authored code for these big open source projects just seemed a bit extreme to me, when the core issue seemed to be that review process/policy should change with the times.
For example, I was helping work on an open-source game engine earlier this year with a longstanding text rendering bug dating back to around 2021 that prevents the engine from being production ready, which the community and myself have developed extensive workaround for. So, one day I've finally said enough and got Claude to debug it. It took Claude 10 minutes to find the bug, it was 3 lines of code change in the renderer (yes, three).
So, I wrote up the regression tests, documented the bug and opened up a PR for the fix, thinking it'll get merged in like less than a week and then we can all move on. The maintainers received it fairly well on the PR, but the PR sat there for nearly 6 months, unmerged, until it finally closed from a bad squash upstream. I'm pretty sure the bug is still there too.
And as a side note, I would be ecstatic if someone wants to contribute to my Github projects with their AI.
by YuechenLi - I wonder if the issue is mostly the code or the AI written PRs and people using AI to talk to the maintainers. I personally just ban anyone doing the latter, I don't want to talk to opus more than I already do lolby winrid
- Completely performative.
You build your OS atop thousands of open source packages, many of which contain AI generated code. Are you going to audit them one by one and remove offending packages? What about the ones you won't remove because the OS would be irreparably broken?
- I don't see how this will survive the attacker/defender gap as ls get increasingly good at cyber security and finding 0 days... but maybe it's an obscure enough is it doesn't matter?by ItsMattyG
- I had a PR in flight that got closed because of this. I had an issue with passwords in the network applet for the VPN and had used Claude to help me identify and then come up with a fix. I did spend a lot time handcrafting and making sure the quality was good, but I respect their decision and no hard feelings, but as someone who have struggled to find time and opportunity to contribute to open source it was a small set back.by lkramer
- I also have found that AI has not lived up to many of its promises and have dialed back what AI gets control of. My projects were turning into unmaintainable messes. The people who say coding is solved aren't paying attention.by brink