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- > All three support Zero Data Retention for requests made through Cloudflare
And then on the providers page:
Property Value provider exa Zero Data Retention Noby jasonjmcghee - If every provider has different restrictions there, the abstraction starts leaking very quickly. I would like to see Cloudflare normalize not only the api, but also expose the data retention rights of each provider clearly.by soltanov
- I was just looking into these as DeepSeek Harness w/ Qwen3.8-27B relies heavily on search. I was going to go with Serper.dev[0] $1 per 1000 (or lower in quantity).
The providers[1] behind this Web Search API have very different rates:
[0] https://serper.dev/Ceramic.ai: $0.25 per 1,000 requests Linkup: $5.00 per 1,000 requests Exa: $7.00 per 1,000 requestsby karmakaze - My coding agent uses the hister cli, i.e. a local index. That often requires me to seed it manually as a downside. The upside is that it caches website contents via browser plugin, which is a nice workaround for bot blocking.
Thanks asciimoo for https://github.com/asciimoo/hister
by qznc - 1. Become monopolistic "guardian" of the internet
2. Make it so other bots can't load pages
3. Offer service for "verified" bots which can load pages
4. ???
5. Profit
Don't use cloudflare.
by denkmoon - Why not use those providers directly? Does Cloudflare need to be in the middle of everything?by binarymax
- For those developers out there, the best is still Gemini Flash Lite 2.5 believe it or not. It gives you 1000 google searches per day for free. Compare to Flash Lite 3.x which is 5k PER MONTH and then a few pennies PER SEARCH. Nuts. Didn’t realize search was so expensive.
Perhaps realizing all of this, Google hasn’t yet deprecated 2.5, bit limits access to it to “those who have used it before.”
It’s really really good for low cost search!
- My number one question about search APIs is always if they allow you to store and resyndicate results you get from them.
If I'm running an agent system but I'm not allowed to store the responses - or provide a "share transcript" button - that's a pretty significant limitation.
The answer to that question is inevitably buried deep in the terms. Here's the relevant section I found for Ceramic, in their list of things you can't do:
> (n) collect, aggregate, store, or compile Output, including search results, relevance scores, or rankings, for the purpose of creating or contributing to any database, dataset, index, or corpus, whether or not such database, dataset, index, or corpus is used for a purpose that competes with Ceramic; (o) resell, syndicate, or otherwise make Output available to any third party on a standalone basis or as a separately accessible component of another product or service; provided that you may display Output to your authorized end users within your own application so long as such Output is integrated into your application's functionality, is incident to the end user’s real-time query, and is not independently accessible, extractable, or downloadable by end users or third parties; or (p) retain, cache, or store Output beyond what is reasonably necessary to display such Output to your authorized end users in the ordinary and real-time course of use, unless expressly permitted in an applicable Order Form.
https://www.ceramic.ai/terms-of-service
Am I alone in caring about this?
by simonw