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- Why would anyone want a crime free society. I think anyone but a small child understands that a ton of things now and historically have been illegal that really just shouldn't be. Society functions as a whole through lack of enforcement of a large percentage of current laws.by donatj
- Or just keep the people in jail who are committing most of the crime. When someone has been arrested a dozen times, we don’t need cameras tracking them to keep people safe, we need that person removed from polite society.
Flock is a poor solution to a failure of the judicial system.
by al_borland - Wait, we’ve already given away our privacy. Where’s our crime free society?by fnordpiglet
- A “crime-free” society would die. Without some level of “crime” it would stagnate. What do I mean by that? Well just look at US history. Can you imagine how much harder, if not impossible, societal change would be without “crime”?
If you are bewildered, consider the “crime” of black men voting, women voting, LGBTQ+ existing, labor unions, and the list goes on. All of these things would have potentially been impossible in a “crime-less” society. We’ve seen how the FBI has infiltrated civil rights movements in the past, does it really take that much imagination to think they would have just made gathering/organizing illegal if they could? Especially with the surveillance state we have today.
Consider the protests, and yes the rioting, if you were able to stamp that out would we ever make any progress forward?
by joshstrange - cool. I don't want a crime-free society. It's not that I want crime, it's that at a certain point I'd rather allocate government attention/money/time at issues other than crime because the benefit to that other thing is greater than getting crime asymptotically closer to 0.by joshAg
- “ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
- Benjamin Franklin
by syntaxing - Most common crime is wage theft, don't see how they are going to do anything about that.by AngryData
- I didn’t vote for a crime free society and I don’t want a surveillance society. Some random ass CEO does not have the right or authority to tell the rest of us how to run our society: that’s sidestepping Democracy and not ok.
Societies have functioned for millennia without Flock, and there is nothing especially dangerous that it solves.
In fact violent crime in the United States has dropped by a record 9.3% just in 2025 (the largest single year decline in U.S. history). It’s not like there is some pressing crisis.
As far as I am concerned, this guy can get bent.
by datahack