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- I agree, a lot of people are making software factories that don’t need them.
You need to look at people making software factories that actually need them to get to their end goal.
My personal software factory has been building an open-source Shopify for every vertical and I think it’s immaculate…no bias.
- I guess it depends how you look at it. I agree there's a lot of new products being built that will get zero maintenance. But also think there's some awesome stuff coming out that is changing the name of the game. And that's thanks to personal software factories. I think it's better to see it as a personal software lab rather than a factory.by herunan
- I have seen this argument many times before over the years. Formerly it was applied to someone creating a new programming language.
People always told them they were wasting their time, and they were probably right about that.
On the other hand every programming language that people rely upon today also had people telling them this when they started out.
It's ok to attempt something that probably won't work if all you need is for enough people to make enough attempts that one of them works.
by Lerc - I fully agree with the sentiment, but is it attacking a strawman or are people really building "software factories"? this is the first time I've even seen the term used in the context of LLMs. what would a software factory on top of an LLM even look like?by zem
- Depends. I say, let your needs drive your personal infrastructure. For example, I wanted to run Claude Code in YOLO mode 6 months ago, but I have lots of projects that I wanted to keep separate from one another (or at least be intentional about how they interact), and especially I wanted give some a set of permissions that they needed, but not this other set, and vice versa, and I could see them doing "grep -r" and "find $HOME" to just search over everything (with constant "I'm sorry, I exfiltrated these API tokens, so you need to rotate them"), so I built a little container setup to isolate them, and it's been working decently well for me and given me peace of mind when I let a project cook for a few hours.
Now I find that sometimes I do have tasks that I just want completed, and they're small or obvious or scoped enough that I know my role would be basically opening up a session and telling it to implement it and then asking another LLM for review and then fix the problems it found and then rubberstamp it--this is all for my personal setup so "QA" just involves me trying out the feature in my normal workflow anyway. So now I have a little miniature "software factory" that does the above, but without me needing to be in the loop. I press Alt+N and type e.g. "make TTS streaming" and continue about my other business, and in 5 minutes my text-to-speech setup has gone from nothing showing up until I toggle my push-to-talk switch, to words showing up at every pause.
I know it's not a bigco "software factory" but it serves my needs. And isn't that what this new era is about? We have a magic genie that grants wishes as long as they're well-enough defined and it's connected to the right other pieces to make it happen. So create an internal process that allows that genie to grant your wishes reliably and in bulk. What else is a "software factory" anyway?
by saulpw - Sounds to me like people understand different things under a software factory.
I believe a software factory is just the next step in the mantra everything is code.
One wants to write a feature description and acceptance criteria into the "box" as fuzzy and with least details as much as possible.
To enable this, one creates for the factory access to information of the domain, requirements and software stack as required by the environment.
And this one attempts all with tools, documentation and processes optimized for the ai.
All with the goal use less tokens, context and speed up every action taken by an agent as much as possible.
That's why there is a trend to plugin based self evolving harnesses which try to automate this with opionated solutions.
Therefore I don't see a reason why building tools for easier testing and less tokens usage is a waste of time especially because one learns more a more areas in ones work one can automate and because depending on your tool choice it can be done without your input and one misses the chance to experiment if ones input in that regard will improve the factory or not.
by codebastard - I think he's right in that the software factory somewhat should emerge. You shouldn't start a project by saying "well, I first should build a software factory to make this faster". Start by building the thing by directing an agent. If you find yourself writing the same thing over and over put it into a skill which you should think of and treat as a macro. When you find yourself developing clear patterns what skill gets invoked when it might be time to start a software factory which in essence puts those decisions and relevant informations behind a pretty interface.
My software factory emerged that way and for the 50-70% of simpler tasks I work on this saves me so much time and, more importantly, mental overhead.
by ajmurmann - Everything is being rethought right now. So many paradigms are broken. There wasn't ever a better time to build a software factory.by nielsole