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  • I am curious if a large number of people stood up their own DoH/DoT servers would France go after each one, even if they were not operating servers physically in France?

    - Would they expect individual operators of small DoH/DoT open servers to block domains at their behest?

    - Should I test this theory by creating an open resolver in France?

    by Bender
  • Time to boycott Sony, they deserve no money from anyone, and I meant anyone.

    They're just f*ing with people without getting anyone good stuff.

    Suppose they're doing this for copyright, it's not like the pirates would be stopped by a mere DNS block rule set anyway.

    by _imnothere
  • I mentioned not too long ago that Mullvad was handing its resolver users over to Quad9. Sadly, I didn’t realize how accurate my concerns would be. Quad9 is a good operator, they actually fought Sony in a German court instead of quietly complying. Yet, they were still ordered to block the content. That’s the core problem. A blocking order is only as damaging as the resolver it impacts. Every time an operator shuts down and redirects its users to Quad9, it pools more users into one place. This makes the next blocking order even more valuable and effective for whoever files it. And now we're seeing Quad9 backing out of a market.
    by DemiGuru
  • Punishing the DNS resolver is weird. Would you punish the phone book company for having the number of a criminal listed?
    by babarock
  • Quad9 is getting picked on because they do not have a large financial backing. Not because it makes any logical sense. France is shooting themselves in the foot.
    by artooro
  • DNS resolvers getting sued should stop resolving domains/properties of the companies suing them too when they are forced to take these kinds of actions/steps off the back of a legal decision like this.
    by JokerDan
  • Maybe i missed it in the post, but how are they going to implement it? They mentioned geoIP is insufficient for complying with the block, so if they dont have a way to block only these domains for users in France, how will they block all requests for users in France?

    To be clear I dont think they should comply with the block, but i didn't grasp how they're going to block everything if they dont have a way to only block some things.

    by 0x0000000
  • "The plaintiff (Sony Music Entertainment GmbH) then used a VPN to access the blocked content from Germany in circumvention of the geoIP blocking. The court agreed with Sony in their assertions of noncompliance, and we were fined for contempt of court."

    Imagine doing everything possible to stop something. They then circumvent your protections with yet another service, and you get fined.

    I wish I could even suggest what someone could do against these trolls.

    This is like saying "we put a lock requested by court and where found guilty because plantif hacked us after"

    by nadermx

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